SMS for iPBX with VoIP.ms, Skyetel & BulkVS

drnewman

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Incredible PBX 2027-D, Skyetel service

Apologies if this has been asked before but what are the configuration steps to enable outbound SMS messaging?

I've configured Skyetel to forward any incoming SMS to a cell number. Problem is a business is now sending the Incredible PBX number SMS messages, and the only way to disable that is to send a STOP message from Incredible PBX.

Thanks in advance for configuration clues.
 
I have. Skyetel says it does not support SMS blocking, and it's just a relay for inbound messages. Is there a way to config Incredible PBX to send a STOP message to the sender? Thanks.

(sorry for the high-latency response, btw)
 
Port Number OUT of Skyetel, Set up with VOIP.MS, they have SMS too. AND a web portal for you to send messages from your SMS enabled numbers so you can send the STOP
 
Port Number OUT of Skyetel, Set up with VOIP.MS, they have SMS too. AND a web portal for you to send messages from your SMS enabled numbers so you can send the STOP
Thanks. Both your response and Ward's suggest outbound SMS is something that would need to originate at the trunk provider, not within Incredible PBX. Correct?
 
I don't know what Ward has in mind; perhaps the same thing I do. This year I have been working on an open source SMS module for FreePBX and I recently added Skyetel. If you want to try it out: https://github.com/simontelephonics/smsconnector This gives you SMS in User Control Panel. I also have a few screenshots up at https://simon.tel/open-source/ . If you try it, let me know how it goes.
There is one small item that hasn't been addressed yet. @drnewman have you done the proper SMS/10DLC registration via Skyetel per their requirements? Doesn't matter if you use a solution from Ward or Bill or write your own to use Skyetel's messaging API, if you do not have proper registration Skyetel isn't going to allow the sending of any messages. If the goal is to send a STOP message to the number sending these SMS messages, you'll need to have the ability to send outbound messages. That's going to require registration.
 
There is one small item that hasn't been addressed yet. @drnewman have you done the proper SMS/10DLC registration via Skyetel per their requirements? Doesn't matter if you use a solution from Ward or Bill or write your own to use Skyetel's messaging API, if you do not have proper registration Skyetel isn't going to allow the sending of any messages. If the goal is to send a STOP message to the number sending these SMS messages, you'll need to have the ability to send outbound messages. That's going to require registration.
Thanks, Samot. I had not realized that. Skyetel has a good article on this:


At Skyetel, this would involve a one-time $50 registration fee, plus $15/month forever thereafter to send SMS messages.

Pass, thanks. I can't justify paying $65 to send a single SMS message, which is all this would ever be for me. Easier to live with the occasional nuisance text. I've tried to contact the message sender, but to no avail.
 
@billsimon reports that his solution is also coming to VoIP.ms within a few days.
Interestingly I had a conversation with VoIP.ms about what is considered 10DLC and requires registration to send outbound. Their only response was "if it is for a business" and this is where it got interesting. As the conversation went something like this from that point on.

Me: "Great, so I can setup automated messages to be sent out at like 7AM each morning to a group of people in my contacts list. That's awesome."

VoIP.MS: "Why would you do that since it would be for personal use?"

Me: "Because I can. You're giving my an API that let's me do that"

VoIP.MS: "Yes, we offer that so you can programmatically configure services with us..."

Me: "Yes and it lets me automate sending/receiving SMS/MMS. So I can do auto replies and I can do mass messages to my contacts as well as automate sending when needed."

VoIP.MS: "Well only if it's not for business use, otherwise you need to register"

Me: "Oh no, this would be for personal stuff. Kids clubs at school, sports league, (listed some other things)....so this means I can do A2P without having to worry about the A2P rules since it's not business..."

VoIP.MS: "Yup, as long as it's not for business...."


That conversation basically told me two things.
1) VoIP.ms doesn't know how this all actually works. As in listing use cases for schools or non-profit style groups, etc. these are all things that are specifically covered for 10DLC. Business is not the only prerequisite.

2) Just with a wink, a nod and a promise that it's 100% for sure personal...you can basically get full A2P advantages without any downside. Just got to just say it's all personal and the history has shown that no business has ever tried to use personal service plans to get around pricing or other usage limitations. So this is bullet proof.
 
Not my problem; I'm just providing the middleware.

I'm sure voip.ms will find out "who's boss" soon enough.
 
Not my problem; I'm just providing the middleware.

I'm sure voip.ms will find out "who's boss" soon enough.
Oh yeah, totally not your problem. I'm just amazed they are allowing unregistered traffic with the fact the cost for said traffic has been increasing all year long and they are eating the charges for the users. It's $0.01/SMS and $0.015/MMS for ATT and $0.007/SMS and $0.016/MMS for T-Mobile. T-Mobile is doing another increase on Dec 1st.
 
I think it's fair to say the Bell Sisters and T-Mobile are driving this train. Their "trade group" is responsible for management of the SMS/MMS traffic. It's pretty obvious (based upon their definitions) that they only consider non-business use as "conversational messaging" like you would do on a cellphone. Somebody will ultimately get fined and will sue to get all of this straightened out. Hopefully, it won't be someone here. If a coach announces that soccer practice has been cancelled, that's not business use, period. If a soccer league announces soccer practice has been cancelled, that's business use.

P.S. This is not going to be decided by some customer service employee at VoIP.ms.

Disclaimer: This is not legal advice, just my humble opinion on the likely outcome of this (expensive) litigation.
 
@billsimon reports that his solution is also coming to VoIP.ms within a few days.

For those interested, the latest release of the module has Voip.ms. Thanks @wardmundy for the testing setup!

 
Seems to be a temporary problem with the download link from GitHub so use this for the time being to load BIll's new FreePBX module. THis version includes the adding-numbers bug fix from below.
Code:
fwconsole ma downloadinstall https://filedn.com/lBgbGypMOdDm8PWOoOiBR7j/SMSconnector/smsconnector-16.0.11.tar.gz
fwconsole reload
 
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Want to try this but my IncrediblePBX2021-PUB is at FreePBX 15.0.37.4 -- module require 16 or above, how to upgrade just the FreePBX -- I have remote users so Public is how I do that, Since IPBX2027 does not have the option yet, I am at 2021 for now

What do I need to run from CLI?

EDIT: I found this: https://nerdvittles.com/incredible-pbx-2022-beta-with-asterisk-19-freepbx-16/ but it is 2 years old and now you use the "File Bucket" thing. Plus it says don't use on production, since mine is in production, I didn't try it. Is there somewhere else I need to look?
 
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