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I found I really wanted the Skype module from Digium...
But it requires a version of asterisk higher than that supported by PBX in a Flash...
Also I bought a good card supported by Dahdi so I went ahead and installed the latest 1.4 asterisk...
and guess what it does not work...
Any obvious clues I should look for ?
I know I read the "Not Supported" so its my fault and I can down grade but I would like to try...
Thanks, anyone .....
 
When you say - "good Card", what did you buy?

Joe
 
When you say - "good Card", what did you buy?

Joe

openvox A400P01

but I have not installed it yet and have pulled the old one...(never set up, x100p)
anyway the reason for the upgrade was to get skype working...
Any Ideas ?
some more info..

if you login via ssh it says it is running in the Demon status window,
but under asterisk version running it does not load and phones cannot connect.
However you can connect on the command line using asterisk -r
I have changed the uncommented line in amportal.conf to ZAP2DHADICOMPAT=true

in the freePBX Status Asterisk is RED saying error...
 
well I tried installing the latest again... Failed...
I installed the latest with Zaptel ... Failed

Downgraded... Works

Surely it's not that bad.... ?

How can I use Skype now ???

Do I have a problem ?
 
well I tried installing the latest again... Failed...
I installed the latest with Zaptel ... Failed

Downgraded... Works

Surely it's not that bad.... ?

How can I use Skype now ???

Do I have a problem ?


It's cold out here......:sad:
 
I had an openvox A400P working on PIAF 1.5 with Asterisk 1.6. DAHDI was working with a few issues. According to Asterisk bug tracker, one of the issues was identified in March 2009. I upgraded to the lastest Asterisk 1.6 release and had more problems with DAHDI and with SIP. I got a little frustrated after following one of the developer threads and down graded to Asterisk 1.4. Asterisk 1.4 works great. I am not confident that Asterisk 1.6 will ever be production ready.
 
I had an openvox A400P working on PIAF 1.5 with Asterisk 1.6. DAHDI was working with a few issues. According to Asterisk bug tracker, one of the issues was identified in March 2009. I upgraded to the lastest Asterisk 1.6 release and had more problems with DAHDI and with SIP. I got a little frustrated after following one of the developer threads and down graded to Asterisk 1.4. Asterisk 1.4 works great. I am not confident that Asterisk 1.6 will ever be production ready.

THanks for that,
I have not installed the card so maybe will send back..
Still I upgraded to the latest 1.4 release of Asterisk and it bricked, I did this to get skype for asterisk working...
So I down graded to asterisk 1.4 "Stable version" with piaf and it is ok again but skype for asterisk is not working yet...
So My big problem is getting the latest 1.4 release working or at least the min version for skype for asterisk...
 
Or A Better SIP Service Provider....

So My big problem is getting the latest 1.4 release working or at least the min version for skype for asterisk...

Not sure Skype is a great alternative regardless of the media hype....
 
Not sure Skype is a great alternative regardless of the media hype....

Well I agree Skype is no good but it is useful for people to call right off our web site with skype and dial right in to our company system, that is useful
 
Requires a version of ASterisk higher than supported by PIAF.

This is a situation that is only going to get worse.... As we know piaf is based on ASterisk 1.4.21.2. The Mainline 1.4 is now at 1.4.26.2 - That's five relatively major releases... While 1.4.21.2 is stable, I would be surprise if all or most of the subsequent revisions aren't.


Equally with the 1.6 stuff (where PIAF pretty much is a "here it is" there are several versions between 1.6.1.1 (PIAF) and current 1.6.1.6 (Asterisk)

When are we likely to see PIAF resynch with something more current (and yet stable).
 
You're going to get Tom's blood pressure up. Believe me. If there were a newer, more stable version of Asterisk 1.4 or 1.6, we'd be all over it. You are free to load the latest and greatest with update-source if you like. This doesn't apply to 1.6 because subsequent releases all have had deal-breaking bugs... in our opinion. The beauty of PBX in a Flash is that Asterisk is compiled from source. You ALWAYS are welcome to roll your own and experiment.

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.......but it is useful for people to call right off our web site with skype and dial right in to our company system, that is useful

Google Voice offers 'click-to-call' widgets that work pretty well.

Regarding updating Asterisk, I understand Tom and Ward's motivation for patience and tending to stick with what works. I updated a pure IAX 1.4 box to the latest (1.4.26.2) without only to find the IAX improvements Digium made (token validation) needs support on both ends, causing all the provider IAX trunks to fail on inbound calls. Only by turning off IAX token validation (the whole point of the update), was I able to get the inbound IAX trunks working again.

I don't blame Asterisk or consider this a bug (two party token support only makes sense), but I do blame myself for jumping into this update without looking. Digium has a coherent bulletin describing the IAX security changes on their site that would have made it clear the incoming paths from my IAX providers would have been broken. There may be a few other bugs and issues, and I'll have more time to spend later this week to see what turns up.
 
Hi

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Only by turning off IAX token validation (the whole point of the update), was I able to get the inbound IAX trunks working again.
Presumably, Asterisk cannot now be crashed on the basis of too many unauthenticated calls, which is a positive step forward.

Joe
 
Requires a version of ASterisk higher than supported by PIAF.

This is a situation that is only going to get worse.... As we know piaf is based on ASterisk 1.4.21.2. The Mainline 1.4 is now at 1.4.26.2 - That's five relatively major releases... While 1.4.21.2 is stable, I would be surprise if all or most of the subsequent revisions aren't.


Equally with the 1.6 stuff (where PIAF pretty much is a "here it is" there are several versions between 1.6.1.1 (PIAF) and current 1.6.1.6 (Asterisk)

When are we likely to see PIAF resynch with something more current (and yet stable).

I suppose a few comments are in order

Yes our Gold standard is Frozen at 1.4.21.2. This is the last version that worked with Zaptel. I also think it is the last truly stable version of asterisk 1.4 tree. It comes down to why monkey with what works?

While this may seem like a philisophical question I believe it indicates a good set of business values which lead to better stability in the long run. I know when I install a commercial version of PIAF my clients do not want me to view them as lab rats to experiment with using bleeding edge software. Rather they want stable proven software that "Just Works" (C)

The current version of the 1.4 tree (1.4.26.2) What I refer to as a silver choice does work but uses Dahdi. Dahdi has improved to the point where it can be used but there are other issues now in the current 1.4 tree which makes it more unstable (my opinion) that the "gold standard". There are a number of issues that need to be resolved before I would "unleash" this version on any of my clients.

For those who wish to use it you can simply use the update-source and install the very latest. Have at it! This will be changing in the future with the addition of a new payload package. Indeed the next 1.5 beta of the ISO will contain an updated installer which will give you the ability after the ISO is installed to choose 1 of 5 choices.

For the 1.4 Asterisk Tree

1. PIAFXtras menu
2. Install our Gold Standard (asterisk/zaptel 1.4 FROZEN)
3. Install our Silver Standard (Asterisk/dahdi 1.4 current)
4. Install the latest Beta
5. Quit

For the 1.6 Asterisk Tree

1. PIAFXtras menu
2. Install our Bronze Standard (Asterisk/Dahdi 1.6 current)
3. Install the latest Beta
4. Quit


Thus you will be able to "Go to hell in your own way" as it should be.

Also update-source 1.6 will be making a re-appearance shortly so please be patient.

As for 1.6 version being out of sync. Yep we keep breaking the current version of 1.6 so I have not updated it in the load files. Would you like me to simply put in the current version without testing it? I am quite happy to simply do this and NOT test every version that comes out. This way the users of PIAF can have the joy of discovering problems and figuring out ways to fix them..... :beta1b:

Our testing matrix is as follows

both 32/64 bit OS's

1.4 frozen
1.4 current
1.6 current

Thus every time a new version or update comes out we install it on both 32/64 bit versions of centos. Generally each load file contains asterisk/dahdi/libpri/addons. Thus if just one component of the mix is updated everything has to be tested again. I have found that because of the way the asterisk group of products is written you can change a single component and everything stops working. I generally install piaf a couple of times a day with updates etc.... Guess this is not enough huh......

This all means that there is a definite delay in updating the load files with the very latest (unstable at times) source from digium. The update-source protocol is in place for the 1.4 tree to allow you to "do it your way"


Hopefully this helps clarify things...... If not :nukeb:

Regards

Tom
 
Thanks Tom,
That was very clear and concise,
I certainly was not questioning your expertise on these issues.
After all I am interested in having the most stable system.
So thanks very much for all your efforts....
 
Tom, I have the ultimate respect for what, and how you do what you do, but there is a smidgin of what moved a lot of people from Trixbox to PIAF in this. The "We are doing it our way, because the other folks are wrong, or their product is broken".

This flies in the face of the whole collaborative "Open Source" Ethic, IMHO. Where not necessarily does one have to fix bugs that one finds, but certainly notify those responsible. (and ergo, there is a commitment to deal with those bugs).

When I look at the release notes, for 1.4.26.1 and see references to the things that are fixed in this version (in terms of crashes and so on) I get nervous about the "existing code". Of course, if all of these bugs have been introduced subsequent to 1.4.21.1, then I am nervous about the SW Engineering Processes that the asterisk team are following. Which fear is more appropriate.?

While I have no visibility of the communications between you and the Asterisk Devo team, If they are at a point where they have released have a dozen "production" baselevels over and above what you have found to be stable, and none of these, are stable, then they are either not listening, not being told, or are just pigheaded, or have inferior quality control mechanisms.

Part of making this all work better is actually getting a bigger team on board. While I am looking for "stable" for my own, and client production systems, I am also looking for improvements in functionality (which is why I can about 6 or 7 PIAF instances - some on real hardware, some on virtual) - I look forward to the changes in 1.5, which would appear to allow some of us to assist in the testing process for getting bugs (whatever their source, or resolution) fixed.

Now that I have put one cat amongst the pigeons, can I raise another. Freepbx is into RC of 2.6. How does that relate to PIAF?
 
What exactly is holding you back now? PIAF is distributed with all of the libraries and source code in place to compile and test any and every version of Asterisk. By all means, have at it and report back your results regularly. The more the merrier.

And if you should find a more stable version, we want to be the first to know about it. And, yes, there are some missing control mechanisms upstream but we'll save that discussion for a late night beer some day. ;)
 
Freepbx is into RC of 2.6. How does that relate to PIAF?

I'm running PIAF 1.4 and have upgraded to Asterisk 1.4.26.1 with no issues on my Dell SC440 server. In addition, I am running the FreePBX 2.6 Beta 2 and also have no issues with it. There have been numerous updates to FreePBX 2.6 Beta 2 since it initially came out but I am notified of updated modules in the FreePBX framework and by email and can apply them with little worry..

The PIAF team has already given us the ability to update to the "unstable" releases if we choose to be guinea pigs and move forward. I have done so with great success. :thumbsup:
 
I did the update-source and moved to the silver version but with zaptel. It is working for me flawlessly......... at least from what I have found.

Can you maybe shed some light on the types of things you have found with 1.4.26.... with zaptel?

I have tried to move to dadhi, but found it difficult to make work right. FOP for example was an issue.

Thanks for the feedback.

TOM and Crew, this distribution saved my rear on a couple of levels. Thanks very much for all the work you have and continue to do!!!!
 
That is interesting, I wonder why my system bricked ?
Oh well I have down graded again and most things are OK so I will continue and wait for more info before upgrading again.
 

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