DEAL Lowest Cost SIP Terminations (US48 and Canada so far)

[wardmundy]

Milton Alvis: sip.us was in the list, but I understood they had dropped out of the per minute terminations game in the U.S. and Canada. Please correct me if I misunderstood.

 

[Milton Alvis]

I have been using them at $0.009/min.
I ported all numbers, quality has been good, offered us several additional options & configuration updates online are instant.

 

[wardmundy]

You're an existing customer. I don't think the per minute option for U.S./Canada calls is available to new subscribers.

 

[rastasean]

Milton Alvis, wardmundy is correct: sip.us now requires a minimum monthly rate.

For what it's worth, I have NOT been able to get sip.us to configure with jitsi or my deskphone. I've recently upgraded the router so I'll try again. Understandably, they are a trunk service so it's meant to be used on some server, not directly with an endpoint, but bria works great with it.

 

[w1ve]

Two wholesale providers I've been using lately, with great results, are Alcazar Networks (www.alcazarnetworks.com) and Voxbeam (www.voxbeam.com). Both have no volume requirements and offer 6-second billing. For the US 48, alcazar is in the range of 0.1 to .5 cpm depending on NPXNXX; for my 603 exchange, it's 0.5 for interstate, 0.4 cpm for intrastate. Voxbeam is 0.85 cpm. Canada is much less for both.

Alcazar offers Toll-free Origination for USA48 + Canada for $2.00 a month plus $0.0118/minute! That is awesome. Most toll-free DIDs are >$0.06 for Canada. <1.2 cents per minute for Toll Free is the best I've ever seen... esp. for no volume commitments.

Both take Paypal for Topup, and they use IP Authentication.

 

[Phil | DIDLogic.com]

DID Logic also includes Canada with US48 for 800 origination.
US toll-free DIDs are $0.99/month with no volume commitment.

 

[atsak]

Has anyone ever analyzed if 6 second billing has much effect on rates? Alcazar is on average 22% cheaper than Anveo Direct for a number of exchanges I tested, but Anveo uses per second billing. But I wonder in real life usage if that will make that much of a difference or not?

Do they charge a "top up fee" related to the percentage they are paying Paypal like Anveo does (ie when you top up with Anveo Direct you pay their merchant fee percentage).

Also, Phil, what is the toll free origination rate for Canada and the US?

 

[krzykat]

I've been using Alcazar and VoIP Innovations for a while as my main two providers.

 

[w1ve]

Yes, Phil... What is the DID Logic Rate for US48+Canada? I am using Vitelity for mine now; they are $.0.25/month, but $0.019/min US48 and (ouch) $0.07 Canada.
atsak: Yes, Alcazar charges a $2.00 Paypal fee... so it's stupid to put in $25 (the minimum).

 

[sorvani]

In addition to the ones you have listed, I really like VoicePulse. Their wholesale rate is $11/month for 1 DID, 4 channels, and free inbound calling.
I generally use them and VoIP.ms in combination to keep everything covered.

 

[Phil | DIDLogic.com]

Atsak, w1ve, gentlemen, I'm terribly sorry to be bumping up an old thread.
There were some forum changes with regards to usernames. I have received some very old updates.

To answer your question, 800 toll-free DID inbound is $0.018/min and includes Canada.
Outbound to US 48 is $0.0069 and Canada is $0.0026/min

This excludes dialer and low ACD traffic. As we know,"US flatrate" is actually arbitrage. US wireless carriers may be able to buy flatrate because their traffic profile is conversational (callers stay on the phone for longer than a minute).

Normally there is an "80% RBOC" rule, meaning that at least 80% should go to major metro CLECs in the US or Canada. Rural, wireless and Canada provincial exchanges are excluded (with Alabama, Yukon or Iowa running as high as $0.06/min to some areas). Carriers have to shoulder a lot of calls taking up the circuits, many going unanswered or occupying trunk lines for up to 1 minute before dropping off (with no revenue). For those reasons, US48 is not available at $0.0069/min flat for dialer, collection activity, telemarketing or other automated dialing environment. Only conversational retail traffic qualifies for this US rate. With a conversational traffic profile, we offer 0.0069 and this is normally OK with our underlying carriers.

We're also happy to offer dialer service via a separate capacity group for clients that require it. Usage must be Do Not Call compliant.

 

[Ncode]

Regarding Didlogic offer... If call quality they provide in the US is similar to what we have as their client in Europe, I would not recommend Didlogic for business use. For personal use, can be acceptable, though. Low rates in this case mean you will get what you pay for. And do not expect miracles from their support.

 

[Hometech]

Quick question which one of these providers allow you to set your CID from Asterisk when making outgoing calls. I want to be able to send different CID's for Outgoing calls depending on what extension is making the outbound call.

 

[hillclimber]

Hometech, all of these carriers do, at least from my experience. See what I wrote earlier so you can make it work for you:

http://pbxinaflash.com/community/in...s48-and-canada-so-far.13382/page-2#post-88786

Besides doing that, you must also login and verify your DID in-advance using a PIN on the voip-provider's settings page, before you are allowed to use it as part of your FreePBX/asterisk server settings.

 

[hillclimber]

Try freevoipdeal.com, or powervoip.com, or voipbuster.com, or 12voip.com, off the top of my head. Out of all of the providers on the list at http://backsla.sh/betamax, I can personally tell you those 4 work for me, (but I suspect the others will as well). This particular list of betamax companies is what the article is about.

 

[Red RedMan]

Has any one use sip.us
trying to get incrediblepbx ubuntu distro working with the sip trunk

 

[gtiglobal]

We can offer Flat Rates! NO CC PLEASE!!
US premium routing $0.003 per minute 6/6 - includes Alaska and Hawaii.

 

[Halea]

We can offer Flat Rates! NO CC PLEASE!!

Meaning ???

 

[gtiglobal]

Meaning ???

All traffic except call center traffic "cc"

 

[gigafibr]

@wardmundy are all these prices in USD?

If thats the case, guess I beat everyone, we wholesale CAD 0.0033 for Canadian termination
works out to 0.0025USD