RECOMMENDATIONS OT - Verizon Home Phone Connect F256VW

[phonebuff]

Good evening all,

Have a customer looking for a low use service, basically incoming from a security gate (Must be seven digital local #) and outbound to a Alarm company. He asked if I had ever used the Verizon Connect F256VW product or AT&Ts version of this product .

Since I have not, I thought I would ask here and see if anyone had used it as he wants to or as a FXO for small Asterisk server.

No VOIP Is not an answer here as there is no internet connection of any type available, and AT&T Land Lines wants a lot of money even for basic local dial tone.

TIA ---
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/device/home-phone-connect
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/att/wireless-home-phone-silver.html#fbid=sIATCJMeJcs

 

[rossiv]

Why not use the GoIP mentioned elsewhere in the forum combined with an Obihai adapter? That's as cheap as I can think of.

 

[phonebuff]

Ross, Considered and rejected.

== The thread about the GoIP has a number of comments about DTMF issues and the Gate security function needs DTMF. Also, this is an executive, not a techie. Multiple boxes would not be a good answer. But thank you for the reply.

 

[rjaiswal]

These devices are basically cell phones. You can't use them for alarm. An alarm communicator can not talk to the central station using this.

For the alarm, just get cellular radio.

For the gate, I would use this:

http://www.vikingelectronics.com/products/view_product.php?pid=503

 

[phonebuff]

You can't use them for alarm.

Why not, the panel is 15+ years old and the standard according to the alarm company is a POTS telephone line from AT&T. What would be the difference between a POTS line from AT&T and this radio that is presented as a POTS line. They also include Comcast Lines and VoIP service as an exceptable option.

The Viking option would be nice for an estate, but this is a community with all that in, he just needs a seven digit local # that the Gate controller can autodial, and the ability to hit some DTMF after identifying who wants in. Also normally a POTS / Comcast phone function.

 

[rjaiswal]

The alarm panel uses a modem like device to communicate with the central station. Only lines that have very low latency, will allow the panel's communicator to handshake with the central station.

Think of it as computer modem or fax machine. If you can successfully dial aol using an analog modem or send a fax with that device, than it MIGHT work. I haven't tried using a modem over a cellular connection. But with the compression and noise, I don't see it ever working.

That's why the alarm companies came out with the cellular radios. You can get a universal radio that will interface with almost any alarm.

And the central station will need to be aware of the communication method. They might not support the alarm because of how it communicates.

 

[phonebuff]

rjaiswal --

The Central Alarm has AT&T, Comcast and a VoIP provider I can't locate on the vendor list. The panel is 18+ years old, and the current wiring (no service) is a simple FXS jack with silver satin cable as part of the Cat-3 house cable.

They do offer a radio option as well, but $250.00 to buy and $20.00 extra a month to monitor. Seems out of line with reality..

They other related issue is the community has an access gate that can only dial seven digit (South Fl) numbers so there is a need for a incoming only phone line that after you talk to the person at the gate you can enter a DTMF code in to open the gate for them, (If someone hasn't driven though it again).

Obviously the alarm is a 365 * 24 issue but the gate is a few weeks a year right now.

Beginning to think a very basic AT&T local only no features phone line may be the best option for now. If one still exists.

 

[mbellot]

Beginning to think a very basic AT&T local only no features phone line may be the best option for now. If one still exists.

Good luck. I don't know about Southern FL, but I finally dropped my POTS line when I hit rock bottom service (no features, no long distance, etc) and it was still costing more than $25/month.

I miss the internet independence of a POTS line (I've had issues for more than a month, they seem to be finally cleared), but I'm getting ~ 3 months of service for the same $25.

 

[rjaiswal]

If that's all you want to accomplish, and you want to do it with only one service, then a POTS line from ma bell is the simplest solution.

I know its expensive for it's intended uses, however, it is the easiest for the customer to understand, and will interact with the existing infrastructure without any modification to the existing equipment.

 

[atsak]

I don't know if this helps, but I have been successful lately getting alarms to work using an OBI 202, and a reverse DSL filter, with the appropriate dial plan in place . . . using voip.ms, anveo or voip innovations to carry the call seems not to matter.

 

[mbellot]

I don't know if this helps, but I have been successful lately getting alarms to work using an OBI 202, and a reverse DSL filter, with the appropriate dial plan in place . . . using voip.ms, anveo or voip innovations to carry the call seems not to matter.

Reverse DSL filter? You mean turning it around (CO side to alarm, phone side to Obi FXS port)?

 

[briankelly63]

Do this for Alarm:

https://nextalarm.com/abn.jsp

 

[rjaiswal]

Do this for Alarm:

https://nextalarm.com/abn.jsp

He doesn't have broadband at his location. Wanted to use a verizon POTS to cellular gateway for alarm connectivity and for gate controller.

 

[atsak]

Reverse DSL filter? You mean turning it around (CO side to alarm, phone side to Obi FXS port)?

Yes.

 

[mbellot]

Thanks.

I could have used/tried that trick about six months ago. I'll keep it in mind if I ever run into a similar situation.