PIAF 1.7.5.6 BETA is Ready for Testing featuring CentOS 5.6

[wardmundy]

CentOS 5.6 has hit the street, and you know what that means...

 

[darmock]

Early results with PIAF 1756 are good.... new ISO next week sometime after the beta testers have broken it a few times.


Tom

 

[darmock]

Well so far the beta 1756 ISO is working still testing it before it goes out the door to the beta guys. Off the top of my head it seems faster for install. Has php 5.3 although the jury is still out if that is going to cause some problems with a couple of programs. Also it is a bigger release and I have been adding and removing stuff on the 32 bit version to keep it down to a cdrom instead of a dvd. The 64 bit 1756 size is anybodies guess.

There have been about 2 gb of updates released since the release of the ISO on Thursday so final release of 1756 may take a bit as we want to keep the stuff on the ISO updated.

Tried to install it on some of my exotic machines I keep around that don't do a standard Centos install and a few more of them actually have drivers but there are still some systems that centos wont install on without help.


Accidentally did an upgrade on an existing purple machine which did not seem to break it, HOWEVER have not tried a recompile of asterisk and dahdi. First few iterations of the ISO asterisk and dahdi would not compile due to some oddities in with gcc-c++ so hopefully they have not been propagated on the accidental yum upgrade.

Currently yum upgrade IS NOT RECOMMENDED on production machines at all.

Did I mention that this is all EXPERIMENTAL?


All programs that work with 1755 seem to work just fine with 1756.


Tom

BTW I don't handle who gets a beta ISO so don't ask

 

[billsimon]

I'm seeing that php 5.3 is a separate package (php53 and php53-*) so unless you install that specifically, it's still php 5.1.6.

Does it install php53 by default on a clean install?

 

[wardmundy]

There is no working "clean install" yet. We hope to include PHP 5.3 if it doesn't break anything. Tom reports that new installs of CentOS 5.6 and DAHDI do not get along, i.e. DAHDI won't compile. Aside from that, Asterisk seems to work fine.

 

[darmock]

yes we opted to install that from our ISO as *everybody* seems to want it. Still exercising the latest beta of 1756 to make sure all of the 112,347 pieces of software are happy with each other..... Hopefully sometime next year it will get released....

The dahdi thing is still bugging me just going to see if zaptel works bet it does......

of course I have been at it since CentOS 5.6 was released.


Oddly dahdi seems to work under RHEL6........

Tom

 

[darmock]

BTW if you do a yum upgrade in an existing PIAF install to try to get to CentOS 5.6 you will be sorry!

In other words don't do it! But hey it is your box. Failure is a great instructional tool.....

Once we get the bugs licked we will let you know.


Tom

 

[mp1111]

BTW if you do a yum upgrade in an existing PIAF install to try to get to CentOS 5.6 you will be sorry!

In other words don't do it! But hey it is your box. Failure is a great instructional tool.....

Once we get the bugs licked we will let you know.


Tom

i did a yum update and first thing Ive noticed-dahdi stopped working. this is because of the new kernel(dahdi doesn't like it). Went to etc/grub.conf and changed the line from default=0 to default=1

after a system restart, Dahdi came back online.

this solution worked for me...

 

[darmock]

Could be although I think there is more to it. I managed to keep dahdi running on the accidental upgrade. Did not notice your problem with latest kernel. on the beta ISO dahdi won't compile. I have reverted back thru the 3 5.6 kernels released thus far still no go.

Thanks for the info


Tom

 

[darmock]

Just as a side note for those of you who have no sense and insist on upgrading.

If you run update-source as is usual DO NOT UPGRADE THE KERNEL when running this program. If you do Dahdi will not work among some other things. So far doing a yum upgrade from the CLI, ON A TEST MACHINE, installs about 110 packages *on my test machine*. The kernels are comment out in PIAF installs as usual.

Dahdi keeps running with your original 5.5 kernel. While it reports it as Centos 5.6 It is not running the new kernel from 5.6


Tom

 

[wardmundy]

Stated another way, with CentOS 5.6 you have a choice of either Dahdi or a 5.6 kernel... but not both.

 

[zaazz]

Will we pull down CentOS 5.6 on a new install? I just ran it and my status shows CentOS release 5.6...

 

[wardmundy]

The installer does a yum update so you'll get the 5.6 modules but not the 5.6 kernel which currently causes a problem with Dahdi.

 

[mickecarlsson]

https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=18992

 

[darmock]

Not to mention that the 5.6 guys turned off ip6 in the kernel..... never rains it pours managed to get it running at least. I saw some chatter on the weekend about dahdi and 5.6 I suspect it needs a modprobe or 2.

Just moving our automated build system over to a new 5.6 based box so far the above 2 wrinkles seem to be it.

will try the patch.

Thanks for the tip we sent the error onto Digium directly soon as we discovered it.

Tom

 

[lowno]

Quick question:
I just did a new purple install on a proxmox system, in freepbx under Sys Info, it says I have "CentOS release 5.6 (Final)". Does a new install upgrade from 5.5 to 5.6 on it's own?

 

[darmock]

hmmm is dahdi running ? did it compile?

I have not gotten that far yet

what is the kernel version that will tell you what you are really running. Generally the current method does NOT pull down the kernel.

Please post results

early testing shows that the real culprits which are php53, c++44 and a couple of other things are not being installed so this is why it is working when you do a new install with a 5.5 iso.


The new 5.6 kernel does work but you have to patch dahdi to compile it,


I am about to release Beta1 to the tester of 5.6 which has the following ongoing problems


1. We are unable to use PHP53 at the moment there are a number of dependencies which will not work with 5.3 the least of which is pear-db. Yes we have modified the php53 >> php already

2. We are unable to compile using the new C++44 compiler too much plumbing at the moment.

3. The 5.6 kernel works however it does NOT support ip6 out of the box. Once you install PIAF it corrects this problem after the reboot automagically. Tested it with an IP6 router all seems to work.

4. Dahdi currently does not compile against the current 5.6 kernel. Digium has a patch which when applied make it compile this is now included in the next release of the load packages.

5. Freepbx may have some problems under 5.6 kernel. Currently on the main page the CPU load indicator shows 100% use. Running top show it at 0.9% will let them know when I get a minute.


So for all new 5.5 installs please don't upgrade the kernel for a while or your system will break!!!!! We may disable the kernel upgrade for a while till the dust settles.


Tom

 

[darmock]

FYI Digium released a new version of dahdi which may fix the compatibility error with 5.6 just testing it.

I have also updated all of our programs to provide compatibility with Centos 5.6 and kernel version detection to ensure a smooth transition when PIAF 1756 becomes available.

Essentially if you have a system based on 1755 and it works you may NOT want to do a new install. Kernel upgrades have been turned off till further notice until the dust settles.

Some have done a yum upgrade anyways and their systems still seem to work..... Gotta love the pioneers. But they are still running with the old kernels or if they upgraded the kernels they have not yet experienced the joy.....Don't worry they will. Course there is always one who will say works over here to which I say great......

At any rate all of the regular PIAF base install programs and are busily uploading to PIAF space should be available tomorrow. Although for existing users you wont see any new features other than revision numbers. As for new installs using 1755x iso there have been a few procedural changes but you won't see any of it till 1756 is released. You want details you can heck out changelog off of the .com site tomorrow evening or better yet next week......

Tom

 

[wardmundy]

Tom reports: "Getting Close..."

 

[wardmundy]

BETA Alert

If you'd like to volunteer to be a pioneer, please drop me a note. The 32-bit ISO is ready for some serious testing. Thanks.